TIME magazine’s Michael Scherer joins MSNBC’s Morning Joe and talks with Mike Barnicle and the panel about his new cover story on Senator Ted Cruz’s campaign and public persona. “What are your thoughts on Ted Cruz’s ability to go from the fringe—and he does represent a fringe element of Republican politics—to the middle, acting and talking like a President?,” asks Barnicle. Watch the exchange here and listen to Scherer describe Cruz’s campaigning abilities and differences from fellow Republican candidate Donald Trump.