On MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Mike Barnicle reacts to Pope Francis’s comments on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s proposal to build a wall on the Mexican border. “When I first read the story I thought it was The Onion—’Pope vs. Trump.’ I choose to think that the Pope spoke as a matter of faith and not politics; an un-artfully worded statement in English,” says Mike of the Pope’s suggestion that building walls, and not bridges, is not Christian. Watch the spirited conversation here.