“Phil Rucker, John Kelly has carried quite a load in his military career. He’s now White House Chief of Staff. He attracts enormous support and respect from anyone who knows him, who has worked under him. How does he cope with this in this White House? What’s going on there?” asks Morning Joe senior contributor Mike Barnicle of The Washington Post White House Bureau Chief Philip Rucker during a wide- ranging conversation about White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and the polls showing slipping support for President Donald Trump. Listen to the discussion and Rucker’s response here.