“Katty Kay, if you look at the second executive order…you have to ask yourself, `Why do we need the ban at all given the stringent immigration screenings that go on right now and have been going on?’ What is really different about this other than the politics of it?” asks Morning Joe veteran columnist Mike Barnicle of BBC World News America’s Katty Kay during a conversation about President Donald Trump’s new travel ban. Listen to Kay’s response here on whether the ban is making country more or less safe.