The bureaucracy of the State Department is front and center as President-Elect Donald Trump considers candidates for Secretary of State. Says Morning Joe’s senior contributor Mike Barnicle: “You need a strong secretary of state — someone who can manage that bureaucracy — a strong under-secretary of state because the word in the State Department — more so than any other department in Washington— is that the titular heads — the secretary of state, the under-secretary, the political appointees — the bureaucracy refers to them as the `Christmas help.’ They are just there for a while.” Listen in on more of the discussion on Trump finding the right leader for the State Department.